family structure, family involvement, chosen family
Tara: I think it’s very interesting that you chose to have the birth mothers of both girls in your life. Can you tell us a little bit about that and that decision and how it worked out?
Ernst: They were in our lives before. And I've always thought and still think that if you share your dreams with as many people as possible, there is a better chance that they’ll come true. And early on I always knew I was wanting to be a father. I didn’t quite know what that looked like. But,I talked about it all the time and through that one of our friends kind of a second- friend of a friend, approached us and said - approached me, early on, before I met Michael and said this is something I can do for you and six months of conversation and that happened and she’s still in our life and Clara’s here from Concordia this weekend and she took one of our cars and went to go visit Diane last night as a surprise and it’s all really healthy and they were made in love. And the same thing then afterwards, we were at a friends party and it was a Christmas party. And we ran into...
Michael: We were going to adopt. Because we thought well, how were we going to do that again, that was amazing. And then another friend...
Ernst: Heather said hey guys, you know Dave and I want to talk to you and we think that, we can help you have another child
Tara: That’s a real gift. So that’s another way in which you have a queer family. Do you get together everybody at any time of the year?
Tara: What is that like?
Ernst: It’s pretty great. Heather and Dave come up to the cottage with their daughter Rissa and Heather’s parents and yeah it’s just a great family and we all get along.