Keywords:
gender, genderism, clothing, bullying, consent
gender, genderism, clothing, bullying, consent
Transcript
Catherine: So, she’s just finishing grade seven today, is that I find now what’s really cool is that she’s having more queer classmates, so basically between the time that she was made fun of to now, for some reason some of them came out of the closet like “thank God” and so…
Tara: Same school.
Catherine: Well the thing is like, same cohort, because they're all in the gifted program. So they went from Elizabeth Simcoe now to Jack Minor so some of them came out of the closet. Great. Fantastic. So it makes it a little easier for her. Um, but you still have uh-
Nazbah: Other kinds of gender violence.
Catherine: Other kinds of gender violence happening. Right now what we’re realizing is because not only are we a queer family, we’re also dealing a lot with slut shaming, right? Yah.
Nazbah: Just in like dress protocols and like no tank tops, shorts are monitored, like for girls, most likely right?, like more often than what guys are wearing, what young boys are wearing, so…
Tara: Right.
Nazbah: And we just tell Arden, like you know, follow it, but you know you can wear whatever you want here. And we just let her know that it’s very explicit slut shaming.
Tara: Right.
Nazbah: That’s what it is. And also around like makeup, all those sorts of things. The conditioning starts pretty early. Um, and then also just like, young boys who are really aggressive with their language like a lot of verbal violence that has a lot of sexual violence inside of that. Um, and really intense explicit language that she’s had to really push back on and of course she gets in trouble, lots of victim blaming happening.
Tara: Right.
Nazbah: Um, and yah, and then still like, “what’s the specific evidence” and that’s like “well, we’re getting a lot of similar reports about this one kid from a lot of different young girls and you’re asking us for more evidence. Why don’t you believe them?” So we’re very explicit with Arden about like, “We believe you, you can always come to us, we’ll work with you on this, and she totally gets, like, consent, like no one can touch your body, you can always tell us if someone has violated you, that sort of thing, so. And you know, she’s very, um, I guess well versed in a lot of politics so.
Catherine: So, she’s just finishing grade seven today, is that I find now what’s really cool is that she’s having more queer classmates, so basically between the time that she was made fun of to now, for some reason some of them came out of the closet like “thank God” and so…
Tara: Same school.
Catherine: Well the thing is like, same cohort, because they're all in the gifted program. So they went from Elizabeth Simcoe now to Jack Minor so some of them came out of the closet. Great. Fantastic. So it makes it a little easier for her. Um, but you still have uh-
Nazbah: Other kinds of gender violence.
Catherine: Other kinds of gender violence happening. Right now what we’re realizing is because not only are we a queer family, we’re also dealing a lot with slut shaming, right? Yah.
Nazbah: Just in like dress protocols and like no tank tops, shorts are monitored, like for girls, most likely right?, like more often than what guys are wearing, what young boys are wearing, so…
Tara: Right.
Nazbah: And we just tell Arden, like you know, follow it, but you know you can wear whatever you want here. And we just let her know that it’s very explicit slut shaming.
Tara: Right.
Nazbah: That’s what it is. And also around like makeup, all those sorts of things. The conditioning starts pretty early. Um, and then also just like, young boys who are really aggressive with their language like a lot of verbal violence that has a lot of sexual violence inside of that. Um, and really intense explicit language that she’s had to really push back on and of course she gets in trouble, lots of victim blaming happening.
Tara: Right.
Nazbah: Um, and yah, and then still like, “what’s the specific evidence” and that’s like “well, we’re getting a lot of similar reports about this one kid from a lot of different young girls and you’re asking us for more evidence. Why don’t you believe them?” So we’re very explicit with Arden about like, “We believe you, you can always come to us, we’ll work with you on this, and she totally gets, like, consent, like no one can touch your body, you can always tell us if someone has violated you, that sort of thing, so. And you know, she’s very, um, I guess well versed in a lot of politics so.