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Tobie: So, then I identified as like gender neutral right?
Andréa: Yeah that’s what you were using
Tobie: And then, but because I didn’t feel like a girl
Tobie: But I didn't fit into the masculine gender role that's like, "Rah I'll have a beer, I'm big and strong." So I didn't fit into that. So, I was like “Well what am I?” I guess I'm gender neutral. And I, I started feeling more like a boy, but not like the stereotypical boy.
Tobie: I felt like a more feminine boy and I was like "Oh no! What have I gotten myself into?" And then, so, yeah. And so, I started identifying as a boy. And so, yeah. And, then eventually, I changed my name and so but I, like, really I think I knew about being transgender right before...
Andréa: Yeah, probably just from us talking about it. Like we always sort of made a point, um, from the time that the kids were little that we never wanted them to feel like they ever had to come out.
Andréa: Even though Tobie's father and I both identify as straight, we just didn't want them to have to ever come to us with that, and we didn't want them to ever be...
Tobie: Like you didn’t want us to hide it.
Andréa: I didn't want you to hide it and I didn't want it to be a big deal and I didn't want you to, I never wanted you to come home...I didn't want a call from the school saying that my kids were responsible for teasing other kids--
Andréa: who may come from LGBTQ families.
Andréa: Or, just identify themselves. We always just, we're just open about it always. So I think I'm like, I'm a social worker and so there's just that language in the house.
Andréa: Since I always talked about.