Michael: Well, Ernst is my husband, we have two beautiful girls, Clara and Milena. Clara is 18, Milena is 12. Well, 12 in February.
Ernst: Almost 12, yeah.
Tara: Right, and what was it like meeting each other and what was it like deciding to have kids?
Ernst: Well, the decision was already sort of made. Because when we met, I was planning to be a parent on my own. So, when Michael and I met, I was setting up my life to shortly after have Clara. And the last thing on my mind was to meet a partner at the time, because my whole thought process and my whole goal was to make sure that I was very secure and create a secure environment for this new child. And I think just doing that and not having you know that whole thing on a radar really kind of stripped me down and I was so not in the mode to meet someone that you do meet someone. And likewise I think the same thing was with you because you were just ready to leave to start a...
Michael: Mhm, I had just graduated university, I was 20…20…and...
Michael: Yeah almost 21 and I was uh leaving for - to move to Toronto and I had a plan and it was August when we met …mid-August. and I kinda went oh, you’ve gotten in the way of my plan, but I moved anyway and we had a long distance relationship for you know.
Ernst: Which was also really great because we had no stress and no agenda. We both agreed that we were gonna enjoy the next three weeks and Michael was going to take off and go to Toronto and I was going to stay here. My business is here and all of my support team was here. And then that was the most magical three weeks of my entire life. And then he took off and we just let it develop. And you know we both felt that it wasn’t just three weeks. So, we took turns going back and forth and then Clara was born. And I would make myself look like a life-size exersaucer and put Clara in a snuggly and she would be three weeks old and I’d take the train down and hang out with Michael in his little apartment.
Michael: I had a bachelor on Wellesley …and we would make a bed, cause I had no room. And we made a bed in my bathtub and she would sleep in the bathtub. Cause it was perfect for a newborn.
Ernst: And it was crazy times, crazy times. People would come and ask me where the mom was in the train and because here I am a man, with a newborn and it was just crazy at that time. It was crazy at that time, it was only 18 years ago. People would ask where we got her.