Participants: Michael & Ernst; Clothing; Gender; Queer; Identity
Michael: You know I think we have close friends who are really amazing about letting their kids not have to cling to any kinds of gender roles that parents often want their kids to sort of adhere to. That’s really amazing. Milena, our youngest kinda likes to wear black leather jackets, and jeans and boots. Not that that’s a big deal. But you know we have a friend whose little boy loves a lot of colour, and rainbows and loves skirts. And his mother
Ernst: Knits him a skirt.
Michael: Knits him a skirt. And it’s just like great. How great is that? Like the whole, I guess the whole lesson is through all of this is, that you know, you can slice it a million ways and that’s great. We have to able to do that. And we have to be able to understand that you know there isn’t one or even five ways of raising children or having children or identifying in whatever way you identify. And I guess that’s the...
Ernst: We are looking forward to learning from our children. And an example of that is, a couple of years ago Clara brought a couple of friends home and one of her friends identified as pansexual and that was something that I never knew about, knew of and knew what it meant. And we had this great dinner of her telling us what that meant and that’s new for us and that’s really great. That we found that out through our daughter.
Tara: I found that out through my research too. So we both have our different ways.
Ernst: I think I'm pansexual.
Michael: That’s great.